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		<title>By: BigAssSuperstar</title>
		<link>http://www.gingerwontsnap.com/2009/08/fatpeoplearesexier/comment-page-1/#comment-1008</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this is over-informing .. but news today about how obesity may actually be helping in one aspect of health .. apologies for the caps:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;canadian research finds hip fracture rates have dropped among the elderly and one of the reasons may be because our bottoms are bigger.&lt;br /&gt;the decline in fracture rates started about 25 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;the university of manitoba research concludes new drugs to fight osteoporosis certainly play a part but &lt;br /&gt;overweight people tend to suffer less from osteoporosis because they have more bone-strengthening hormones circulating in their bodies and more padding to protect hips during falls. underweight people are also more at risk of osteoporosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this is over-informing .. but news today about how obesity may actually be helping in one aspect of health .. apologies for the caps:</p>
<p>canadian research finds hip fracture rates have dropped among the elderly and one of the reasons may be because our bottoms are bigger.<br />the decline in fracture rates started about 25 years ago.<br />the university of manitoba research concludes new drugs to fight osteoporosis certainly play a part but <br />overweight people tend to suffer less from osteoporosis because they have more bone-strengthening hormones circulating in their bodies and more padding to protect hips during falls. underweight people are also more at risk of osteoporosis.</p>
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		<title>By: BigAssSuperstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigAssSuperstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Fat people get a bad rap in this world. I don&#039;t agree that it&#039;s ok to negatively stereotype all larger people the way it has been going on. When you think of me as a fat person; am I a PERSON, or am I just a blubbery eating-machine?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Y&#039;know, I&#039;d *love* to hear more personal stories about how you&#039;ve been oppressed because of status as a Person Of Heft. I think relating incidents of society squelching your human potential or smothering your spirit solely because of your size would be compelling and enlightening...more riveting than generalizations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think some fat people -- and I would include me among them -- could benefit from an honest and soul-searching examination of how much they&#039;re really being Held Down By The Man because of the pounds, and how much they&#039;re projecting or inferring or predicting the fat-bashing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as I don&#039;t deny there&#039;s abundant racism still in today&#039;s society, it seems sometimes that some people of colour are too quick to assume a racist motive when they&#039;re denied something or fail at something...surely it&#039;s the case sometimes, or even a lot of the time. How much of the &quot;society hates me cuz I&#039;m fat&quot; stuff is real, and how much of it is misattribution or cop-out? I&#039;m not suggesting that you&#039;re doing that now or have ever done that... but I&#039;d love to hear more about your thoughts on the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot; Fat people get a bad rap in this world. I don&#39;t agree that it&#39;s ok to negatively stereotype all larger people the way it has been going on. When you think of me as a fat person; am I a PERSON, or am I just a blubbery eating-machine?&quot;</p>
<p>Y&#39;know, I&#39;d *love* to hear more personal stories about how you&#39;ve been oppressed because of status as a Person Of Heft. I think relating incidents of society squelching your human potential or smothering your spirit solely because of your size would be compelling and enlightening&#8230;more riveting than generalizations.</p>
<p>I think some fat people &#8212; and I would include me among them &#8212; could benefit from an honest and soul-searching examination of how much they&#39;re really being Held Down By The Man because of the pounds, and how much they&#39;re projecting or inferring or predicting the fat-bashing.</p>
<p>Just as I don&#39;t deny there&#39;s abundant racism still in today&#39;s society, it seems sometimes that some people of colour are too quick to assume a racist motive when they&#39;re denied something or fail at something&#8230;surely it&#39;s the case sometimes, or even a lot of the time. How much of the &quot;society hates me cuz I&#39;m fat&quot; stuff is real, and how much of it is misattribution or cop-out? I&#39;m not suggesting that you&#39;re doing that now or have ever done that&#8230; but I&#39;d love to hear more about your thoughts on the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous, thanks for &quot;weighing in&quot; on this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The post you are referencing is a bit old, at that point I was not happy with how I was treating my body. Since then I have made some changes and have been feeling much better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The majority of &lt;b&gt;my&lt;/b&gt; problems stem from poor stress management. With a combination of counseling, exercise, relaxing techniques (such as meditation and stretches) and a better diet I am slowly getting a handle on my problems.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The thing is--I would have the same issues whether I was fat, slim or sideways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether my excellent resistance to common illnesses is a result of my extra fat cells or not, however is up for discussion. I&#039;m the only one in my family that doesn&#039;t get ill when everyone else does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And to whomever made the point about not seeing obese people in their 90s--did it ever occur to you that the fat on these people was used up through a series of &quot;old people&quot; illnesses over the years? Maybe *that* is why they even reached their 90&#039;s. When you fall ill you need your fat supplies to help you through it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, People can debate about this as much as they want and draw conclusions about me, too. Fact is, none of you know me, nor how I feel exactly about the subject of being fat. I just wrote about it because I was tired of being picked on and singled out because I was fat, rather than because of my formidable accomplishments in life. Fat people get a bad rap in this world. I agree that everyone should strive to be as healthy as they can (and if that involves losing weight, so be it) but I don&#039;t agree that it&#039;s ok to negatively stereotype all larger people the way it has been going on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you think of me as a fat person; am I a PERSON, or am I just a blubbery eating-machine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, thanks for &quot;weighing in&quot; on this.</p>
<p>The post you are referencing is a bit old, at that point I was not happy with how I was treating my body. Since then I have made some changes and have been feeling much better.</p>
<p>The majority of <b>my</b> problems stem from poor stress management. With a combination of counseling, exercise, relaxing techniques (such as meditation and stretches) and a better diet I am slowly getting a handle on my problems.</p>
<p>The thing is&#8211;I would have the same issues whether I was fat, slim or sideways.</p>
<p>Whether my excellent resistance to common illnesses is a result of my extra fat cells or not, however is up for discussion. I&#39;m the only one in my family that doesn&#39;t get ill when everyone else does.</p>
<p>And to whomever made the point about not seeing obese people in their 90s&#8211;did it ever occur to you that the fat on these people was used up through a series of &quot;old people&quot; illnesses over the years? Maybe *that* is why they even reached their 90&#39;s. When you fall ill you need your fat supplies to help you through it.</p>
<p>Anyway, People can debate about this as much as they want and draw conclusions about me, too. Fact is, none of you know me, nor how I feel exactly about the subject of being fat. I just wrote about it because I was tired of being picked on and singled out because I was fat, rather than because of my formidable accomplishments in life. Fat people get a bad rap in this world. I agree that everyone should strive to be as healthy as they can (and if that involves losing weight, so be it) but I don&#39;t agree that it&#39;s ok to negatively stereotype all larger people the way it has been going on.</p>
<p>When you think of me as a fat person; am I a PERSON, or am I just a blubbery eating-machine?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are very young and are just beginning to explore the truth about science and health and weight. You are healthy because you are young and were lucky enough to be born with good genes -- not because you eat healthy or live right. And, despite the fat phobia in our society, weight itself has nothing to do with it, either. Please look at healthism closely and try to find any scientific evidence to support that healthy eating (however you might define it) has been shown to prevent any chronic diseases of AGING or to reduce rates of all-cause mortality. You are falling into the &quot;good-bad&quot; fattie fallacy, and the healthy-unhealthy populace fallacy. They are just other forms of prejudice. Good health in any developed country is not nearly as under our control as is popularly believed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are very young and are just beginning to explore the truth about science and health and weight. You are healthy because you are young and were lucky enough to be born with good genes &#8212; not because you eat healthy or live right. And, despite the fat phobia in our society, weight itself has nothing to do with it, either. Please look at healthism closely and try to find any scientific evidence to support that healthy eating (however you might define it) has been shown to prevent any chronic diseases of AGING or to reduce rates of all-cause mortality. You are falling into the &quot;good-bad&quot; fattie fallacy, and the healthy-unhealthy populace fallacy. They are just other forms of prejudice. Good health in any developed country is not nearly as under our control as is popularly believed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rina the Mama Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.gingerwontsnap.com/2009/08/fatpeoplearesexier/comment-page-1/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Rina the Mama Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAV the eff O!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree - I&#039;m a bigger girl (good German/Russian stock) and people are SHOCKED when I tell them that I hover around 180lbs.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthy is not a matter of the size of your freaking jeans - it&#039;s a matter of your, well, HEALTH!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stumbled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAV the eff O!!!!!</p>
<p>I agree &#8211; I&#39;m a bigger girl (good German/Russian stock) and people are SHOCKED when I tell them that I hover around 180lbs.  </p>
<p>Healthy is not a matter of the size of your freaking jeans &#8211; it&#39;s a matter of your, well, HEALTH!!!!</p>
<p>Stumbled.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.gingerwontsnap.com/2009/08/fatpeoplearesexier/comment-page-1/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, I don&#039;t really believe you. You say that you are fat and Healthy, but one of the links at the bottom of this post goes to a blog post about how un healthy you feel. excerpt--&quot;All of these problems with my body lately have got me thinking about the way I live my life. I&#039;m tired of eating shit all the time, and feeling like crap, too.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;I guess it depends on your definition of &#039;fat&#039;. People that carry a bit of extra weight can be fit and healthy. I don&#039;t know how &#039;fat&#039; you are, but people that have BMIs (yes, I know it isn&#039;t a perfect measure)which put them in the morbidly obese category, and then try and say it&#039;s just their metabolism, or they eat healthy and work out as much as a slim person are lying to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, I don&#39;t really believe you. You say that you are fat and Healthy, but one of the links at the bottom of this post goes to a blog post about how un healthy you feel. excerpt&#8211;&quot;All of these problems with my body lately have got me thinking about the way I live my life. I&#39;m tired of eating shit all the time, and feeling like crap, too.&quot; <br />I guess it depends on your definition of &#39;fat&#39;. People that carry a bit of extra weight can be fit and healthy. I don&#39;t know how &#39;fat&#39; you are, but people that have BMIs (yes, I know it isn&#39;t a perfect measure)which put them in the morbidly obese category, and then try and say it&#39;s just their metabolism, or they eat healthy and work out as much as a slim person are lying to themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Webgrrl74</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webgrrl74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we comment about how we want other people in your comments to shut the hell up with all the multiple comments?*LOL* bahahahahaha...Sorry BigAss..had to be said.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we comment about how we want other people in your comments to shut the hell up with all the multiple comments?*LOL* bahahahahaha&#8230;Sorry BigAss..had to be said.  <img src='http://www.gingerwontsnap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BigAssSuperstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigAssSuperstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginger, not to condone rampant anti-fattyism... but I think you can see the difference between racism, ageism, ethnocentrism, misogynism and anti-fattyism ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Race&quot; (which, scientifically speaking, does not exist), age, cultural background, sex -- those are things you&#039;re born with. You [with rare exception] can&#039;t or don&#039;t change them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But most folks seem to believe that body mass is something that people have control over. And if they observe that someone appears to have lost control over it, they make conclusions about the person.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, the OP seems to suggest that fat people are stuck being fat, and fat&#039;s not inherently unhealthy, so everyone should just get over it. If one believes that, then one can easily agree with that. If we conclude that science is bunk, fat is only a danger (or health expense, or society impedence, or whatever) &quot;except in the most extreme cases (i.e., being underweight or so fat you’re immobilized)&quot;, and that the real problem is poor nutrition and sedentery lifestyle .... *and* that diets don&#039;t work, so why bother trying ... well, then, there&#039;s no personal accountability involved in how large someone is, so all y&#039;all muthafuckaz who hate on fat people are dead wrong and should stfu. Seriously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If those assumptions are correct, I&#039;m 110% behind it. It&#039;s like hating dark-skinned people because they&#039;re dark-skinned....even beyond, because dark-skin-haters usually make assumptions about the inherent qualities having dark skin brings....as dead-ass wrong as they are about that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, that&#039;s the difference between the other isms and anti-fattyism. People think others have some kind of choice in how fat they are. Folks are welcome to argue that there&#039;s no choice involved, which is one strategy for shutting the chubby-haters up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger, not to condone rampant anti-fattyism&#8230; but I think you can see the difference between racism, ageism, ethnocentrism, misogynism and anti-fattyism &#8230;</p>
<p>&quot;Race&quot; (which, scientifically speaking, does not exist), age, cultural background, sex &#8212; those are things you&#39;re born with. You [with rare exception] can&#39;t or don&#39;t change them.</p>
<p>But most folks seem to believe that body mass is something that people have control over. And if they observe that someone appears to have lost control over it, they make conclusions about the person.</p>
<p>Now, the OP seems to suggest that fat people are stuck being fat, and fat&#39;s not inherently unhealthy, so everyone should just get over it. If one believes that, then one can easily agree with that. If we conclude that science is bunk, fat is only a danger (or health expense, or society impedence, or whatever) &quot;except in the most extreme cases (i.e., being underweight or so fat you’re immobilized)&quot;, and that the real problem is poor nutrition and sedentery lifestyle &#8230;. *and* that diets don&#39;t work, so why bother trying &#8230; well, then, there&#39;s no personal accountability involved in how large someone is, so all y&#39;all muthafuckaz who hate on fat people are dead wrong and should stfu. Seriously.</p>
<p>If those assumptions are correct, I&#39;m 110% behind it. It&#39;s like hating dark-skinned people because they&#39;re dark-skinned&#8230;.even beyond, because dark-skin-haters usually make assumptions about the inherent qualities having dark skin brings&#8230;.as dead-ass wrong as they are about that.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#39;s the difference between the other isms and anti-fattyism. People think others have some kind of choice in how fat they are. Folks are welcome to argue that there&#39;s no choice involved, which is one strategy for shutting the chubby-haters up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie, please know that this was not directed at you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were several people&#039;s tweets that I saw that upset me. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I decided to rant in my blog. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s not really attack against anyone (that would be hypocritical of me) just a venting of frustrations against society in general. Everyone thinks that you&#039;re not leading a healthy lifestyle if you&#039;re fat--but some people DO lead a healthy lifestyle and are either still fat, or not down to an &quot;acceptable&quot; size just yet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just wish that people wouldn&#039;t immediately associate being fat with being a disgusting couch potato. Everyone has their own story as to how/why they are fat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(For the record I have neither couch nor potato in my house!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie, please know that this was not directed at you!</p>
<p>There were several people&#39;s tweets that I saw that upset me. </p>
<p>So I decided to rant in my blog. </p>
<p>It&#39;s not really attack against anyone (that would be hypocritical of me) just a venting of frustrations against society in general. Everyone thinks that you&#39;re not leading a healthy lifestyle if you&#39;re fat&#8211;but some people DO lead a healthy lifestyle and are either still fat, or not down to an &quot;acceptable&quot; size just yet.</p>
<p>I just wish that people wouldn&#39;t immediately associate being fat with being a disgusting couch potato. Everyone has their own story as to how/why they are fat.</p>
<p>(For the record I have neither couch nor potato in my house!)</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: BigAssSuperstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigAssSuperstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continuing on the author&#039;s points about fat not being inherently bad for you (unless you&#039;re immobilized by it), and the fat-is-unhealthy notion being a development of the pharmaceutical industry ... is this story, on the wires today, the kind of thing she&#039;s talking about? The kind of science she says is a lie?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A new study finds women with extra fat around their waists are&lt;br /&gt;more likely to develop asthma.&lt;br /&gt;    The California Teachers Study of more than 88-thousand women&lt;br /&gt;found a 37 per cent increased incidence of asthma among women with a waist circumference of about 35 inches -- even if they were of normal weight.&lt;br /&gt;    Study author Julie Von Behren says abdominal fat is visceral fat,&lt;br /&gt;which is more biologically active and has been linked to diabetes&lt;br /&gt;and heart disease.&lt;br /&gt;    She says fat around the waist could be acting in some inflammatory way.&lt;br /&gt;    Whatever the reason, Von Behren says the association with asthma provides yet another reason not to put on extra weight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I understand that one of the OP&#039;s points is that you can&#039;t shame someone into good health. I don&#039;t see this as a shame thing -- I don&#039;t see people saying &quot;you&#039;re morally wrong for being fat....and it&#039;ll kill you.&quot; I see doctors saying &quot;fat....will kill you&quot; and other people saying &quot;you&#039;re morally wrong for being fat.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;Just as I see doctors say &quot;smoking will kill you&quot; and everyday folks saying &quot;smokers are scum&quot;. Mixing the messages and blaming one for the other? Well, history has shown what we get for fighting the wrong enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing on the author&#39;s points about fat not being inherently bad for you (unless you&#39;re immobilized by it), and the fat-is-unhealthy notion being a development of the pharmaceutical industry &#8230; is this story, on the wires today, the kind of thing she&#39;s talking about? The kind of science she says is a lie?</p>
<p>A new study finds women with extra fat around their waists are<br />more likely to develop asthma.<br />    The California Teachers Study of more than 88-thousand women<br />found a 37 per cent increased incidence of asthma among women with a waist circumference of about 35 inches &#8212; even if they were of normal weight.<br />    Study author Julie Von Behren says abdominal fat is visceral fat,<br />which is more biologically active and has been linked to diabetes<br />and heart disease.<br />    She says fat around the waist could be acting in some inflammatory way.<br />    Whatever the reason, Von Behren says the association with asthma provides yet another reason not to put on extra weight.</p>
<p>I understand that one of the OP&#39;s points is that you can&#39;t shame someone into good health. I don&#39;t see this as a shame thing &#8212; I don&#39;t see people saying &quot;you&#39;re morally wrong for being fat&#8230;.and it&#39;ll kill you.&quot; I see doctors saying &quot;fat&#8230;.will kill you&quot; and other people saying &quot;you&#39;re morally wrong for being fat.&quot;<br />Just as I see doctors say &quot;smoking will kill you&quot; and everyday folks saying &quot;smokers are scum&quot;. Mixing the messages and blaming one for the other? Well, history has shown what we get for fighting the wrong enemy.</p>
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